tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post1896039022656193678..comments2024-01-31T20:45:40.520+00:00Comments on Slow Lane Shuffle: A ramble... for old time's sakeRachel Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-79455017681019004122012-06-22T16:48:48.250+01:002012-06-22T16:48:48.250+01:00I know what you mean. This programme is really mor...I know what you mean. This programme is really more about taste than class but it gets in a lot of detail about class at the same time. The truth is that there are a lot of people in the middle... and some of them have nothing in common with each other (and same for the extremes too).<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-24220442308482846962012-06-22T15:19:51.898+01:002012-06-22T15:19:51.898+01:00My dad always used to say belligerently he was wor...My dad always used to say belligerently he was working class, because he worked. Oh dear, dad, no, no, no! You were the mill owner. Yet what class I really came from I'm not quite sure. My mother was educated, my father educated in the university of life. He inherited a small business, and worked hard at it, employing a couple of people, but he was hardly a wealthy entrepreneur.I suppose he was lower middle-class in dress and attitude, but self-employed. Same for all my salt-of-the-earth cousin farmers: you wouldn't call them working class, middle class or upper class (although there are plenty of rich, landowning farmers in Herefordshire and East Anglia, for example, who are definitely middle or even upper class). Oh, what a game we like to play when considering this vexed and peculiarly English question! In truth, though, I couldn't give a f*** about it. Or should I say fig?The Solitary Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11284354541952038339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-68394855840049484672012-06-22T11:16:58.276+01:002012-06-22T11:16:58.276+01:00Yes, I only listen to Desert Island Discs when it&...Yes, I only listen to Desert Island Discs when it's someone I've heard of and am interested in to be honest. Certainly not a regular listener. I found that edition so huge though... all the emotions and happenings and history within it. And every time Kirsty asked her if she was proud of her achievements etc. and she said (about 3 times, I think) "well, yes but I'd give it all to have my son back". Awards to anyone who didn't wail at those words. I know I did. <br /><br />And class is such a mixed affair... which makes it even more amazing that Perry actually managed to make a fairly cohesive series that did mean something. I loved the bit at the end where he said something like "what I've learned, and the middle class people here won't like this, is that there is no such thing as good and bad taste". It is subjective, about who you are and where you are and when you are. Worth a look.<br /><br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-44575893837158273992012-06-21T22:50:33.593+01:002012-06-21T22:50:33.593+01:00I have a vintage Ford Escort! I wonder if that mak...I have a vintage Ford Escort! I wonder if that makes him more valuable?<br /><br />I heard the Doreen Lawrence as it was broadcast, and found her a quite remarkable woman. I've gone off Desert Island Discs enormously after the succession of presenters, and somehow it seems shorter these days, but it was an almost unmissable edition.<br />Haven't caught the Grayson Perry, as my current addiction is The Secret History of our Streets. I was very close to tears - sadness and rage - with the Deptford one. <br /><br />I can never work out what class my family were. Affluent middle, undoubtedly, but still all my brothers were manual workers in a slaughterhouse, which is freqently amongst the lowest of the low occupations. And we swore a lot. All of us.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380213493011623153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-92120239113627437132012-06-21T11:32:35.038+01:002012-06-21T11:32:35.038+01:00R - we watched the last part ("upper class&qu...R - we watched the last part ("upper class") last night. Good stuff - it's here<br /><br />http://www.channel4.com/programmes/in-the-best-possible-taste-grayson-perry/4od#3366424<br /><br />I liked his conclusions at the end too.<br /><br />Thanks Selma. Only on blogs do I not feel like an odd bod!<br /><br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-85595176689825104322012-06-21T07:09:48.713+01:002012-06-21T07:09:48.713+01:00I love a good ramble. The nicest people I know ram...I love a good ramble. The nicest people I know ramble all the time. I do it myself. I enjoy it xxSelmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06725973304332327347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-84232682761458330572012-06-21T01:42:15.686+01:002012-06-21T01:42:15.686+01:00I'm hoping I can watch the "class" l...I'm hoping I can watch the "class" links! Thanks for posting them and a very enjoyable ramble, I thought.Rachel Fentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10046917627054462214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-34494783860529079502012-06-19T18:59:39.707+01:002012-06-19T18:59:39.707+01:00I think it's because we don't have Junior ...I think it's because we don't have Junior High... not these days anyway.. just one big high school (12-18 or thereabouts). In Scotland kids go to High School at around 12 (in England a year earlier). <br /><br />And you're right - class is confusing... in every sense!<br /><br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-58341799600348611142012-06-19T17:51:23.654+01:002012-06-19T17:51:23.654+01:00Um, I seriously hope that high school starts young...Um, I seriously hope that high school starts younger for you guys than it does here because otherwise I've lost a couple of years! Although I started high school at age 14 so maybe it's not that far off...<br /><br />I was always confused by class because my dad worked for UPS delivering packages for 30 years, & my mom worked in sock mills, convenience stores & cleaned houses. But we seemed to be better off financially than some of the white collar families I knew. I really think my confusion was that my dad talked like a professor and yet had such a manual type job.The Bughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509037206264761261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-56368120692129903582012-06-19T10:13:37.074+01:002012-06-19T10:13:37.074+01:00I think I know a few male ramblers too... but I kn...I think I know a few male ramblers too... but I know what you mean about a certain type of don't-waste-words guy. One of daughter's favourite shows just now is "The Middle"... and Mike Heck (and possibly our men...) are just that type of guy. We love Mike of course... and the whole family.<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-62437138995100856822012-06-18T23:12:59.791+01:002012-06-18T23:12:59.791+01:00Actually, I like it when you ramble. :)
Beside...Actually, I like it when you ramble. :) <br /><br />Besides, it's a girl thing. We start off a Point A and that reminds of something else, which leads to a third thing until we're at Point Z and the men are scratching their heads. :)hopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03306622656461205674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-28751698497353131082012-06-18T19:10:57.814+01:002012-06-18T19:10:57.814+01:00Yes, we are taste-makers it would appear! Though o...Yes, we are taste-makers it would appear! Though of course Titus beat us to it...<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6246801426821066145.post-57344415544005331312012-06-18T19:03:57.582+01:002012-06-18T19:03:57.582+01:00Well of course you know and I know that Border ter...Well of course you know and I know that Border terriers are the very best dogs in the whole world Rachel. Seems that others are beginning to catch on doesn't it.The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.com